
if you look at my ‘rosebush questions’ post below, and then at ‘more rosebush questions’ you’ll see that the issue of ’sunday’ was brought up, and also tithing. J McIntyre took up my challenge of finding verses in the NT that back up the idea of ‘keeping sunday special’ as christians today. Here is the list he/she (sorry, don’t know!) came up with:
1] Mark 1:21 When the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue
2] Mark 2:27 “The Sabbath was made for man,
3] Mark 6:2 When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue
4] Matt 12:12 it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. [which must therefore exist]
5] Mark 16:1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene… [i.e.not until]
6] Luke 4:16
on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom.
7] Luke 4:31 on the Sabbath began to teach the people.
8] Luke 6:5 “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.” [which must therefore exist]
9] Luke 13:10 On a Sabbath Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues,
10] Luke 13:16 Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?”
11] Luke 23:56-24:1
But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.
12] Acts 18:4 Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue,
13] Matt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practises and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
14] Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people
15] 1 Cor 16:2
2On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income,
16] Matt 23:23
You should have practised the latter, without neglecting the former.
17] Heb 7:2
Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, his name means “king of righteousness” [Abraham lived before the Law]
18]Heb 7:8
8In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
Here are my comments:
1,3,5,6, 7,9, 11, 12 and 14 all show Jesus and people around him being jewish. We know that jesus’ friends would also sacrifice animals in the synagogue at this time, and we accept that as it was part of their religion… but we don’t do it today as we know jesus was the final sacrifice.
nowhere does jesus say that those who want to follow him must rest/not shop, etc, on the sabbath, or on sunday.
it would make sense for jesus to teach in the synagogue on the sabbath as that was the traditional time and place for teaching to happen. what is interesting is that he ALSO taught on other days of the week, in other venues… showing that he didn’t feel tied to teaching only on the sabbath.
2,4,8 and 10 … glad you mentioned these… these are the strongest argument that jesus was really fed up with the pharisees 508 (or whatever it was) list of things you weren’t allowed to do on a sunday. Jesus heals someone, and picks corn in a field with his disciples on the sabbath. he does these things deliberately, and makes a thing of it. these verses don’t say that jesus says we should always meet on a sunday, that it’s a holy day and that we shouldn’t work on a sunday, etc. perhaps they say the opposite.
14… yes, this shows the early christians meeting on a sunday, but in other places it says they met ‘daily’.
15… this doesn’t mention a tenth though, just some money.
17 and 18… yes, abraham tithed. he also sacrificed animals to God, which, back then, was the right thing to do. as it says later in that very bit of the chapter: the people were given the law based on a system of priests… but they could not be made perfect through that system, so there was a need for another priest to come… and when a different kind of priest comes, the law must be changed too.
these cannot be taken out of context… the whole of chap 7 and 8 are about how jesus is our high priest.
i find this article on tithing very good.
the NT has a strong emphasis on giving… to those in the church who are in need first, and then to the poor. all we have is God’s not just 10%.
i know that jews (and catholics) are keen on their holy days and places, and i am happy for them to be so. but the way i see it, if we are christians, born out of the reformation, we know that there are no holy days, places or people. God is abiding in us,fullstop.
if chrisitians today feel the bible is telling them to keep sunday special, or to tithe, that’s fine. i accept that we can both translate the bible in slightly different ways. What i worry about is the church teaching that sundays and tithing are the ONLY way to be a christian. this is legalist and dangerous, imho.
i’m still happy to discuss either topic tho, as i find it interesting, and it’s all part of discovering how we should ‘be church’ in post-christendom today.